JOSE ESCAMILLA - UFO-The Greatest Story Ever Denied Part 2 - Moon Rising - Faked, And Poorly Researched?
83In the highly controversial documentary movie, UFO-The Greatest Story Ever Denied Part II - Moon Rising, filmmaker Jose Escamilla quotes an unnamed BellCom/NASA Insider speaking about the Apollo moon landings:
"we lied about everything".
We have to ask ourselves, is Jose Escamilla also lying?
After researching publicly available U.S. government documents online and Jose Escamilla's cited resources for his documentary movie. "UFO-The Greatest Story Ever Denied Part II - Moon Rising", I am convinced his claims of UFOs on the Moon are misguided in the extreme.
Jose Escamilla's claim is :- When the Moon is viewed using the NASA colorized images you can see UFOs roaming over the surface.
I hope to demonstrate that when these colors are removed what appear to be UFOs are in fact craters. This can be seen in figure (a) where a crater does indeed look like a UFO but of course it is just a crater. I know people will shout NASA cover up but the images used in the trailer are from NASA as well so what is it to be UFOs from NASA images OK? Or craters from NASA a cover-up?
Why should you care about this? Well, if you are UFO advocate, these claims by the filmmaker only hurt the genuine sightings and the general public support of the possibility of extraterrestrials.
The Controversial Documentary
"UFO-The Greatest Story Ever Denied Part II - Moon Rising"by Jose Escamilla is a documentary movie that focuses on his claim that the U.S. government has been deceiving the world regarding the presence of extraterrestrials on the moon. His film movie trailer also discusses the claim that the Apollo missions to the moon were faked.
The following are some of his assertions taken directly from the site containing Jose Escamilla's movie trailer.
"The Moon is presented in it's full "natural" color"..."This is the real color of the moon. This is the first time in human history we are seeing the moon in it's full natural colors."
It should be noted that these images of the Moon quoted above can be found on publicly accessible websites cited below. This information is not exclusive to this Movie.
His assertion regarding the true color of the moon is correct. Although it has to be said NASA has put the word "natural" in quotations. One might then question if the word "natural" is to be taken literally.
The narrator claims the UFOs are "shining light onto the lunar surface". No this is not light this is ejecta from when the surface of the moon is impacted releasing a large amount of energy, resulting in material being ejected. Eventually, a characteristic crater forms surrounded by a blanket of the ejected material.
"The only clear and detailed photography ever released of real flying saucers". (Narrator's words in the movie trailer)
Or it could be the first time in human history optical illusions of the Moon have ever been used to sell movie tickets and DVDs.
Figure (a) NASA identified crater
Figure 1
Figure 2
Figure 3
My Investigation
With a life-long interest in fair and unbiased science, I found the movie trailer and began taking notes so that I could conduct my own research. I utilized the same resources found on the internet that he used along with others easily found by a novice.
One thing that should be pointed out is I cropped the images so the focus was on the the two craters only. I looked at most of the alleged UFOS in the movie trailer around that area and they all displayed the same findings. Again for those that doubt this I have included the website address so they are able to research for themselves.
Both sets of images are under the control of NASA so I must assume they would have tampered with both the monochrome image as well as the color if tampering as suggested took place at all.
To the right you can see (Figure 1) from his website that will become the reference point for my investigation. The second image (FIgure 2) is the image I located utilizing the USGS Map-a-Planet site. There are numerous references in these photos to indicate these two photos are of the same lunar location. The name of the larger crater with the smaller inner ring is called KUNOWSKY (18Km) Named after the German Astromnomer George k Kunowsky 1786-1846 (so long before NASA's time) and the alleged UFO crater is called KUNOWSKY A The approximate center of KUNOWSKY A is Longitude 329.29 and Latitude 4.31. Both of these craters are visible from Earth.
Source ( http://www.lunarrepublic.com/atlas/sections/d2.shtml.)
In the movie trail, one can easily see the USGS Map-a-Planet Website being utilized. The photos Mr. Escamilla uses in his documentary appear to be from the Clem-UVVIS Multispectral Mosaic Version since the image I found (Figure 2) is shown in this format and appears very similar. There are other versions available on the same menu on this website, including the Lunar Orbiter Mosaic. The third image (Figure 3) shown below is the identical image in Figure 2, but shown in the Lunar Orbiter Mosaic alternate mode.
It appears quite obvious in Figure 3 that the object being possibly considered a UFO by Mr. Escamilla in his trailer is actually just a crater. This leaves me with considerable doubts regarding the validity of the movie in its entirety. Draw your own conclusions.
I wrote to Jose Escamilla inviting him to comment on this Hub but he replied declining my offer.
You can make a comment below, and all are much appreciated.
Addendum : Since first writing this Hub almost a year ago I have obtained a copy of the full movie and have watched it many times. My original opinions are still valid.
Thanks to everyone at Disclose.tv and UFO Casebook, and many more forums for your support. Keep spreading the word!
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The Movie Trailer for UFO-The Greatest Story Ever Denied Part II-Moon Rising
- UFO-The Greatest Story Ever Denied Part II - Moon Rising on Vimeo
Please watch the trailer yourself. I want to draw your attention to his first UFO claim which will be adjacent to undisputed large crater with a small circular indentation in the center. This will be a reference point at 56 secs into the film.
USGS Map-a-Planet Site
- USGS Map-a-Planet: Explore the Earth\'s Moon
Explore global imagery of the Earth's Moon.
Official Website for the Movie
- Moon Rising Official Website
Approximately 2/3rd of the way down on his opening page of this website you'll notice the photo that I hope to focus your attention on.
Arizona State University Space Exploration Resources Website
- Clementine Images of the Moon
Contains multiple formats for viewing high definition images of the moon.
Let Me Know What You Think
After conducting your own research, do you believe Jose Escamilla's claims?
See results without votingForming part of Ed Grimsley blog spot
- Paranormal Light: Tonight on Coast to Coast AM: Ed Grimsley
Notice the reference to Jose Escamilla's movie.
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Thx 0p0 for following my link :-)took me six hrs to find but worth it I hope
How can you use airbrushed NASA photos as a baseline comparrison? Look at the B&W "crater" and you see the un-natural edge and shadowing.
If you remove a filter it does not make a floating ufo crash and turn into a crater. If you study the smaller craters around that area they all have the same shadow pattern. The moon is a very big place to airbrush every spaceship and besides if they had how come they are still there in color. Thanks for your comment but please use your brain before writing one next time. Id go visit the site and look for yourself they are all craters I just chose that because it was in the trailer i couldnt possibly have included them all. Sorry one more thing what baseline as you put could I use they are both NASAS images. Perhap a Chinese one of Mars?
Very interesting. I'll have to do some research on these links. Thanks!
Please do Rongould. I wish everyone would :-) and thx for the comment.
I have heard of allegations that the moon landings never happened. Wouldn't it be possible to point a telescope of sufficient power at the location where the landings took place, and that question will be settled once and for all? Perhaps there isn't such a powerful telescope?
I still do remember all the buzz about the Moon Mission when I was a little kid.
Wandererh....sounds like a good theory, unfortunately, I don't know that we could do it very easily. Thanks for stopping by!
Quicksand: I was a tad too young to remember, but I've been told I was propped up in front of the TV. :) Thanks for stopping by!
Great research GreyMoon, I always find this kind of stuff fascinating.
Thanks Whikat :) I'm starting to think more research than the filmmaker. I only got onto this subject because I liked his previous film and wanted to check this out for myself and found out Santa was dead so to speak.
Well you definitely did your research, and about the Santa thing, don't you hate when that happens? Although, I love doing research and hate taking other people's word for it. It must be the rebel in me.
I hate these so-called documentary film makers that skew facts to make their POV more believable. Michael Moore comes to mind as one of the biggest culprets.
Thanks for the comment Imadork
Well, I'm biased. My dad was in the Space Program at White Sands Missile Range and had a TOP Secret Clearance with the Government, so did my mom and so did my brother. Not me, I keep no secrets.
I grew up knowing we landed on the moon and tho I'm not sure what lies have been told and there always are some....I do believe we've been there, not sure however if there were aliens. I know some strange things happen in space and are on many other films.
Everything isn't a conspiracy, but I love this topic and Kudos to your great research!! Certainly there are many liars on the Roswell Incident, and many other space expeditions...so hard to filter out the truth, eh? I love curious minds, and have one myself. Keep us informed, I'll go check out the links!! Great Hub!!
Thank you marisuewrites.
Sounds like you had a very interesting childhood. I would have loved to have your first hand knowledge from the people that really know.
This debate about Moon landings and UFO,s will run forever it seems. As for what I believe... well Im just keeping an open mind to Aliens etc. I wrote this to open a few eyes to how people can manipulate data (visual) in this case to suit their own personal agenda.
Comments like yours is what writing this is all about . Thank you for taking the time to :)
Hi GreyMoon. my mom typed up many reports on the aliens and UFOs that hovered around White Sands...details were secret but the incidents were pretty well accepted. I like to think I'm a reasonable person, and I know we had many wonderful late night conversations in our house about aliens...and I just can't think we're the only "us." You know, it's fact if its repeated..so science says...and I don't see how we can be here and not be a repeat somewhere. Surely -- in all that space....only one earth? naaa We've got brothers and sisters somewhere or we're just dreamin' and none of this is real. besides, hubbell just showed a lot of other earth like atmosphere's out there....so....and I believe Hubbell. =)) I'm an Xfile person from way back!!! =))
fascinating, and what a great kick-off to your hubpage life!
Marisuewrites lol is the X-Files classed as 'way back' already? Aliens keep stealing time from me and putting me back to earth years later its seems. :) If there are the right ingredients... shake stir let stand for a few million years...warm near a bright star for a few more million and bingo life, and I personally believe if those are in place it can happen anywhere. Im sure my sister thinks of me as kind of alien already :) I Saw a UFO once but I haven't spoke about it in years as everyone thinks your just making up stories. I am not saying it was alien but... well thats a hubpage perhaps. Remember 'the truth is out there'. Just not in Moon Rising lol
ahahah true, I think I was Xfiles before Xfiles was Xfiles. LOL
well, I figure we are probably the billionth time it happened. We're not doing so hot here...so maybe someone else out there has done better and they'll visit in time to pull our heads out of our ...you know whats its. we can hope.
the night, has a thousand eyes...
Londongirl thank you for the comment and looking at the time you should be in bed lol
marisuewrites
But thats why I guess they are avoiding us :)
Id better close the drapes then with all these eyes on me im getting paranoid all of a sudden lol
a great and informative hub! I really like it! thanks!
Thanks Gin Delloway :)
Very interesting point. I like it. Keep those articles coming.
JPSO138 Thank you for your comment, and I am working on it. :)
Everyone is trying to make a buck and the UFO deal has been a money maker for fifty years. I wrote a hub explaining my position on the existance of aliens and UFOs. I believe that it is very likely that they are other civilizations in the galaxy but it is also highly unlikey that we have seen any yet.
Thanks for the comment Pete Maida.
True everyone has to make a buck unfortunately. But, let's make it an honest one. :)
There is quite a lot of information on et' and ufos online If, you go to utube and ise theiir search box,type in ufos or extratrestrials,might be surprised at the number of videos,some fake ones too of course.Sometiimes you wil see a link to a website ,when you click on more info in the upper right habd corner
Thanks for stopping by Sal
I fear that the enigma runs so deep that few of us, including myself, will ever get to the truth behind the mystery, behind what we touch on as "truth".
"The f***in' shooters don't even know. Don't you get it!!?"VIDEO: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_40kJlo9P4g
Nevertheless, we pursue the TRUTH for the sake of liberty.
Does the truth equal liberty though?
That's a great scene from the JFK movie. Things generally are much more complex than we know.
Moonmovie.
Ive seen real UFOS and that movie is not it
Lies are lies
With computer technology these days, one never knows anymore what is fake and what is real. heck, with Photoshop we can all become super models
Even though I am a pipe smoking nurse who should be wearing a beret, I am open to all possibilities. As they say in the X-files, "The truth is out there".
This is a brilliant hub!! Im pretty open minded so I agree with blonde poet
@blondepoet thanks for the comment
@ Calpol25 that your a pipe smoking nurse? :)
Thanks for dropping by and the encouraging comment.
I'm with Cindyvine. Tough call.
Needless to say, I actually had a hard time reading the first part of this hub. Punctuation was off. Something that is hard to read, isn't all that fun to read. Therefore, they usually do not get completely viewed all the way. I must admit, I had to bail early.
Listen GreyMoon whoever you are. It's okay by me you trying to debunk my film, BUT when you use my last name Escamilla and profile SCAM in my name you are making an insult to my family name who have nothing to do with my films. This is Libel based on your own assumptions and I want you to REMOVE that blasphemy on my family name immediately. I am contacting the Hub Pages legal department about this. I want you to be stopped from posting this kind of harrassment and defamatory remarks about me and my family name. YOU are not getting away with this. Send me your real name and address so I can have my attorney contact you. People like you need to know that when you harrass people like me it's not the best thing to do. Especially when you spam my family name like you are doing. I am not offended by your claims - this goes with the territory, BUT I am NOT going to allow you to defame the name of my family simply because you disagree with a few points I make in my films. When you attack my family name - there's hell to pay. JE
@Jose Escamilla
Thank you for taking the time to read my review. I am not sure that you know what blasphemy means. As for attacking your family that is libel against myself as that is clearly not the case.
Grey Moon: I like how you are the devils advocate and in this case, rightfully so! Be very careful though, I watched the entire film many times myself and if Jose is right on just one and only one of his claims that is presented out of many claims in Moon Rising, then you should be praising Jose for not only putting his life on the line to make this film a reality, but for giving you and all people the pleasure of watching Moon Rising absolutely FREE! While 99% of the world’s documentarians spend money to make money, Jose with Moon Rising spent money to share a most powerful Truth. NASA confirms water on the Moon and I believe the underlining message for Moon Rising is that there is life on the Moon. Its not a hard concept to grasp to say the least, Water=Life.
@ JustPassingBYE
I am commenting on his claim of UFOs on the Moon, which are clearly craters. If he is correct on other statements in his movie that does not mean then by default his correct on the craters being UFOs and it is irrelevent to this hub. As for providing information for free. Moon rising is now free on Youtube, but LUNA is $3.99 per view, The reissued version of UFO The Greatest Story Ever Denied is $4.99 a view. Moon views are $3.99 per view. Finally his movie Interstella is $2.99 per view. So don't talk to me about him making movies out of the goodness of his heart and the ridiculous statement "putting his life on the line" How would you know this to be a fact? Did Jose tell you this, or is this just another Jose comment? Remember when Moon rising was originally released it was $3.99 per view and around $20 dollars to buy the DVD. Here are links to his Youtube channel for those that doubt this.
http://www.youtube.com/user/joseescamilla
And the link to his new Youtube Channel.
http://www.youtube.com/user/UFOTGSED
And as a final comment to yours. Water is a major part of Organic life. But if you do your research a little better you would know the water found on the Moon is so frozen it is harder than steel. So I can not imagine Jose's One mile tall giant aliens living in that. Keep on passing by. Notice no E in by.
@JustPassingBYE
Hardly a just passing comment. So what your trying to say is that every Crater is really a UFO but in a spectrum of light that can not normally be detected? And these UFOs stay in the exact same position year in year out. As to give Astronomers the impression that they are not static UFOs but impact craters. Of course it is so simple now you have explained it. All UFOs and no craters on the moon.
You a mentioned to me in your emails that Jose's "Rod"s are also in this IR/UV spectrum, but Jose and other people. around the world manage to capture them using standard video cameras and still cameras? Wow how incredible is that? And totally IMPOSSIBLE, with standard equipment.
I think there is a lot to be said with regard to " A little knowledge is a dangerous thing" When you can explain to me why Jose is using known craters in his movie and claiming they are UFOs then feel free to comment again. If they were images of UFOs that were not the exact same size and location of these craters then I would take his fiction a little more seriously. Thanks for the long comment. Keep passing by.
I would love to pass by more often if you were fair in your self-moderation and share with the rest of your audience my last post instead of concealing it, regardless.
"So what your trying to say is that every Crater is really a UFO but in a spectrum of light that can not normally be detected?" - Grey Moon
A: No.
"And these UFOs stay in the exact same position year in year out. As to give Astronomers the impression that they are not static UFOs but impact craters." - Grey Moon
A: No. If you recognize that these UFO's are invisible to the Human Eye, you wouldn't see these things if you were standing right in front of it.
"You a mentioned to me in your emails that Jose's "Rod"s are also in this IR/UV spectrum, but Jose and other people. around the world manage to capture them using standard video cameras and still cameras? Wow how incredible is that? And totally IMPOSSIBLE, with standard equipment." - Grey Moon
A: How do you know its impossible to do this? Go look up Jose's Sky Fish protocol when using a standard Camera in capturing RODS, its what made Jose Famous. Some people who use Jose's Sky Fish Protocol don't realize that's what they are doing when they are capturing RODS with Standard Cameras. In the IR/UV spectrum you wont have to make any camera adjustments to capture RODS.
"I think there is a lot to be said with regard to " A little knowledge is a dangerous thing" When you can explain to me why Jose is using known craters in his movie and claiming they are UFOs then feel free to comment again. If they were images of UFOs that were not the exact same size and location of these craters then I would take his fiction a little more seriously." - Grey Moon
Didn't Jose suggest on Moon Rising that the UFOs he is claiming on the Moon's surface are alive by referring back to the STS-75 footage taken by Martyn Stubbs and NASA back in 1996. We know that the STS-75 footage was shot using a UV camera on-board the Columbia Shuttle and thus, those UFOs captured on film are invisible to Human eyes. They were quite large in size if we use the tether as a measurement stick against them as they fly behind the tether. My point, which I care not prove with empirical evidence, is it possible on the date and time the Clementine took those pictures that these invisible UV/IR based UFO's were inhabiting, if not resting inside some of those empty craters considering that some of these UFO's appear to be 2 - 3 nautical miles wide as demonstrated by Trevor James Constable in Moon Rising. If a large UFO was inside a crater, they would appear as large domes covering the crater if their size was the same as the crater, which is what a few of those images suggest and we know that the Clementine Camera shoots it imagery with UV/IR info within the image itself, so what those natural color USGS images of the Moon taken by the Clementine are showing you is really there, but what those things are still needs investigation and I am not impressed with the official response being just Craters.
Cameras catch light in the RGB Red,Green,Blue light
spectrum. They do not capture UV/IR. Keep up the good work Greymoon.
@RGB Yeah I know, but justpassingbye loves to type nonsense it seems.
Thanks for dropping by
RGB: Your right, Standard Cameras don't capture IR/UV and I never said that they do to begin with. Even though RODS stand out as sore thumbs in the IR/UV spectrum, if you use Jose's Sky Fish protocol which is what I orginally stated, that a Standard Camera can be modified and adjusted to capture these things the human eye naturally cant. You can argue with me about it all you guys want and try to find holes in my argument that you can turn into molehills if it makes you feel comfortable at the end of the day, but you will never know for sure unless you go out with your own camera and find out, and its free to do so if you own your camera so no excuse is necessary if you choose not to. If you think I am typing nonsense then don't worry about me, just here to watch all the crabs roll around in the barrel.
Actually on further reflection I guess I was totally wrong. I guess I am trying to get everyone to prove a negative. It really is up to me to show evidence, and not for everyone else to prove me wrong. Greymoon if I leave anymore comments just delete me as my medication does not always stop me having my delusions. Do you see crabs in a barrel? They hide under my bed you know they do Bad crab very bad crabs with their nasty pincers.
Wibble wiblbaiza se I em goooing again Now the crabs want to take over the world in my ufus thy luk lik a big barrel in the sky oo pretty sky such loovely clouds.
@justPassingBYE
Thanks for your last message.With regards to giving me permission to delete your comments due to emotional problems you might be experiencing. It does explain an awful lot? really and you have my honest and heartfelt sympathy. Get well soon
Found this website while trying to find a free version of the film, and im glad i did,
I also tryed to put a link and a message on Jose Escamilla's youtube channel only to have it dissapear, maybe by coincidence but was there one second gone the next,
Good page and nicely done
Thats all had to say
"Lovely" discussion going on here XD XD XD
Strange things have been going on over millenia here on earth, so there is no need to fight over "only" 60 years. Pleeeeease people, research aliens/UFOs appearing on ancient paintings, drawins, stonecarvings (and even in the bible). All "fake" ??? Well, that conspiracy must have started early...
@Oda Kinnewsky yes but also research how the most sourced and quoted cases of UFOs in paintings and drawings have rational explanations. Reading something that suits your opinion and stopping is not research. We have a terms for this in the English language, " quote mining" , and "cherry picking", these are very popular with people wanting to support bogus claims. Like yourself it seems. Thank you for stopping by, and as you look up at the stars remember to look down occasionally to avoid tripping over.
I look up at the stars and leave it to You to look down occasionally to avoid tripping over.
Best regards, Other Kin New Sky
had my own doubts too after watching that part II so i googled online and got here. thanks for your efforts GreyMoon i really appreciate it.
First of all I have to apologize in advance for my bad english. I searched for discussions about this documentary to know what to believe and what not. I'm only an enthusiast, naturally interested in this kind of topics and I just thought about the possibilities of being fooled by the nasa, and then by jose escamilla. Anyway, thanks for being a curious mind, we need more of those : ) Just take care about how you communicate your point, because at some point it seems like you were talking contemptuously; you don't know if while he were trying to explain it all his research was as valid as yours.
Why can't I find a discussion board about it, anyway? s:
hello... is there something u can tell about the zeitgeist then? because the truth we all seeking is "how did we excist"? "who put us here"? "is this all a game"? and of course, these secret society's all over the world messed things up from starter, making up money, religions, WARS to make money for them own... so all we've seen so far is evil... when the good will come to the humans, when will this illusion what we think as so called life were living will stop..?
SO is this conspiracy about The UFO's true or not? Well are the images in the documantary's film's true ? Why would all thes people lye that worked ther they got nothing to win Srry for my abd english
I understand your argument against Jose's claim, but may I point out a serious mistake that you make with this presentation? You use a Lunar Orbiter image from the late 60's to falsify Jose's claims for UFOs on a Clementine image filmed in 1994. Both images are authentic and genuine NASA imagery which you agree to, but there are major inconsistencies as far as optics and technology with the 2 images in question that you must address if your entire argument hinges on the comparison of one B&W analog image to one full color digital image taken 30 years apart from each other from 2 separate NASA missions, which you didn't do with this presentation. You showed that the area in question is a crater which Jose doesn't deny, but you failed to prove what the hell is that huge white, bright anomaly covering the entire inside of the crater, because if it was just moon maria inside that crater as expected, it would be the same color as the surrounding area which is covered with the same exact maria. Regardless, your presentation doesn't falsify Jose's claims, but in a twisted way adds credence to Jose's UFO claim by showing that older B&W images weren't advance enough for their time in capturing Moon anomalies that appear on more recent color images.
i grew up expecting us to be planet hopping by now. i was an ardent sf reader and still am a believer science will get us way up there, someday.
congrats on debunking this "face on mars" fruitcake; as silly conspiracies go, his is lame. i'd rather take "2001 a space oddisey". yup, 2001 was the future then..
??????...
@ SkepticalGuy Both images are from the Clementine mission. Check your sources. I checked mine :) Thanks for the comment and dropping by.
Very interesting.
The photos Mr. Escamilla uses in his documentary "appear" to be from the Clem-UVVIS Multispectral Mosaic Version...
This leaves me with considerable doubts regarding the validity of the movie in its "entirety"
YOU ARE AN IDIOT WHO HAS JUST GONE AND DONE WHAT YOU ACCUSE ANOTHER OF DOING...assumptions lead to the answers of the assumed truth...assumptions are blinkers...assumptions are suffocationg and limiting...
you babble on in this thread like you are the highest source of research on this topic and all anser in turn without researching in return.. IntimatEvolution is correct in saying that it is hard to read.. that is because we have an arrogant fool who is not as educated as they make out whom then speaks teacher - student , parent -child tones when someone opposes them and gets a tickle in the ego when told they are right by some other idiot whom has'nt even researched it himself.. if you are a real person then you are as i have said because i researched the movie myself and have now researched your claims and have found you to be basing your whole argument on a close coincedence of one shot that if looked at closely isn't exactly the same anyway...you can't be a real person ... my god could someone be so dumb...
well said sector indeed..greymoon does not know anything more then anyone other. his beliefs are based from information he illegally found from a controlled source. readily available to any out reaching man buffoon .. your truth is not out there, is not in here, is not on your network or within any in or out sourced media created. and you will never find it..
GreyMoon has left us. Maybe the moonmen took him home.
0p0 2 years ago
So cool!
I knew it!
I searched for the images but I coudn't find anything un the USGS's crapy site :P